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Fwd Linda W's reply to Cat's Battles query
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#8
Posted By: Ron Thompson
28 Oct 1999 1:21 PDT
for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:21:57 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:21:48 -0700
To: mlog@lightpatch.com
From: Ron Thompson
Subject: BATTLES: Fwd: Debating whether to start this or not :) #3
>From: Cathy Thompson
>To: Ron Thompson
>Cc: Ron and Deb Thompson
>Subject: Debating whether to start this or not :)
>Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:57:41 -0500
>
>Am about out on my feet...but just cannot let the evening go by without
>letting ya'll know...inside the booklet I brought back from Aunt Mickey's
>was a handwritten piece of paper...I paid no attention to it because it
>looked like notes someone had made while reviewing the booklet and
>accidentally left in it. Imagine my surprise this morning...when I went to
>copy the booklet...and while I was waiting for the previous page to
>print...I read it over more closely...and found that it was the link we are
>looking for!! It gives the direct line down from Matthew to Noel...and guess
>who is Noel's son!!! Supposedly *OUR* William!!!!!!!!
>
>Am snail mailing the entire booklet...with the handwritten page copied in
>the place in order where it was left. Here is what it lists:
>
>Matthew Battle
>John Battle
>John Battle
>John Battle
>Noel William Battles
>William Battles
>Franklin Battles
>Richard Battles
>Arthur D. Battles ...brother to our Robert Battles (our grandfather)
>Billy Ray Battles...don't know who this is...but would be Richard's first
>cousin if he is
> Arthur's son
>Linda...would be of our generation
>
>Then it lists the main lines from the booklet...and whoever was doing the
>list added on to that as well, but the names are not familiar...so could be
>another branch.
>
>I wrote a long note this morning to go with snail mail...and debated whether
>to say anything now or not...but could not stand the suspense :) Now am
>gonna have to go back to GenForum and get involved in all that debate that
>was going on! It was over exactly this part of Noel's descendants...and if
>he had two wives or not! Not gonna dive into that tonite...but hopefully
>will be rested up tomorrow night and can assimilate it better. If you get a
>chance...and want to do some looking...we need to find someone who has
>information about William's children. The only information this booklet
>gives regarding William is that he was married to 1) Keziah Wright; 2) Ann
>Jacobs. Boy...isn't that wild that the name Wright should turn up in this
>line now...when it is the same name we're searching for in the Smith line
>!!!
>
>I got your forwards, Ron, from Jodie and Leslie. If I can...will update the
>PAF tomorrow night too...or if you get it done first...you can forward to
>me. As soon as we feel comfortable that the Battle(s) info is correct...we
>can prolly find someone with a ged file of that bunch. I know Peggy Wilson
>did a good bit of posting about this line on GenForum...so maybe we can
>contact her again. I chatted email with her a couple of times a while
>back...but she did not seem to think the lines were connected then...so will
>have to have some good sources to prove it out.
>
>Am gonna try to go read some of the GenForum notes real quick...and print a
>few to take with me tomorrow to compare. Am on mirc too...so drop in if
>ya'll have time.
>
>Yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnning my head off...so prolly won't be on long :)
>Will catch ya'll soon tho!
>Cat
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#7
Posted By: Ron Thompson
28 Oct 1999 1:16 PDT
for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:16:37 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:16:34 -0700
To: mlog@lightpatch.com
From: Ron Thompson
Subject: BATTLES: Fwd: Debating whether to start this or not :)
>From: Cathy Thompson
>To: Ron Thompson
>Cc: Ron and Deb Thompson
>Subject: Debating whether to start this or not :)
>Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:57:41 -0500
>
>Am about out on my feet...but just cannot let the evening go by without
>letting ya'll know...inside the booklet I brought back from Aunt Mickey's
>was a handwritten piece of paper...I paid no attention to it because it
>looked like notes someone had made while reviewing the booklet and
>accidentally left in it. Imagine my surprise this morning...when I went to
>copy the booklet...and while I was waiting for the previous page to
>print...I read it over more closely...and found that it was the link we are
>looking for!! It gives the direct line down from Matthew to Noel...and guess
>who is Noel's son!!! Supposedly *OUR* William!!!!!!!!
>
>Am snail mailing the entire booklet...with the handwritten page copied in
>the place in order where it was left. Here is what it lists:
>
>Matthew Battle
>John Battle
>John Battle
>John Battle
>Noel William Battles
>William Battles
>Franklin Battles
>Richard Battles
>Arthur D. Battles ...brother to our Robert Battles (our grandfather)
>Billy Ray Battles...don't know who this is...but would be Richard's first
>cousin if he is
> Arthur's son
>Linda...would be of our generation
>
>Then it lists the main lines from the booklet...and whoever was doing the
>list added on to that as well, but the names are not familiar...so could be
>another branch.
>
>I wrote a long note this morning to go with snail mail...and debated whether
>to say anything now or not...but could not stand the suspense :) Now am
>gonna have to go back to GenForum and get involved in all that debate that
>was going on! It was over exactly this part of Noel's descendants...and if
>he had two wives or not! Not gonna dive into that tonite...but hopefully
>will be rested up tomorrow night and can assimilate it better. If you get a
>chance...and want to do some looking...we need to find someone who has
>information about William's children. The only information this booklet
>gives regarding William is that he was married to 1) Keziah Wright; 2) Ann
>Jacobs. Boy...isn't that wild that the name Wright should turn up in this
>line now...when it is the same name we're searching for in the Smith line
>!!!
>
>I got your forwards, Ron, from Jodie and Leslie. If I can...will update the
>PAF tomorrow night too...or if you get it done first...you can forward to
>me. As soon as we feel comfortable that the Battle(s) info is correct...we
>can prolly find someone with a ged file of that bunch. I know Peggy Wilson
>did a good bit of posting about this line on GenForum...so maybe we can
>contact her again. I chatted email with her a couple of times a while
>back...but she did not seem to think the lines were connected then...so will
>have to have some good sources to prove it out.
>
>Am gonna try to go read some of the GenForum notes real quick...and print a
>few to take with me tomorrow to compare. Am on mirc too...so drop in if
>ya'll have time.
>
>Yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnning my head off...so prolly won't be on long :)
>Will catch ya'll soon tho!
>Cat
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#6
Posted By: Ron Thompson
28 Oct 1999 1:14 PDT
for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:15:07 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:15:03 -0700
To: mlog@lightpatch.com
From: Ron Thompson
Subject: BATTLES: Fwd: Fw: Saw your Battles' posting... (try #2)
>From: Cathy Thompson
>To: Ron Thompson
>Subject: Fw: Saw your Battles' posting...
>Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:31:41 -0500
>
>Here's a reply about Battles....for your files
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Margie E. Haynes
>To: Cathy Thompson
>Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 9:16 PM
>Subject: Re: Saw your Battles' posting...
>
>
> >Kathy,
> >My Richard Battles was born 15 March 1839 and died 27 Oct 1929. I know
>that
> >he had at least 2 wives. One was Millie Lurena Pollard whom he married on
> >12 Dec 1867 (she died 20 March 1903). His second wife was Minnie Kelly. I
> >don't have any info on her because I am decended from Millie Pollard.
> >Richard and Millie ahd a daughter Mary Lurena Battle born 12 Jan 1869 (this
> >is my great-grandmother) she married Joseph Louis Jones on 28 Dec 1890 in
> >Cherokee County.
> >
> >Other known children of Richard and Millie are: Laura (born 19 Nov 1870) ,
> >Luther (b: 15 Oct 1879), Lucian (b: 20 June 1882) and Susie Pearl (b: 1
> >March 1886). There may be others but these are the ones that I can verify.
> >
> >Richard is buried in the Shady Grove community in Cherokee County AL. I
> >have not been able to prove any thing but family tradition says that his
> >father was William Battles born about 1779 in Tennessee. I do have a
>little
> >information gleamed from others that has not been verified.
> >
> >Also, there are several Richard and William Battles in AL most of which
>are
> >from Cherokee and St Clair Counties.
> >
> >If any of this info goes with your info, I'll be glad to share what I have.
> >
> >Margie Haynes
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Cathy Thompson
> >To: mehaynesgang@mindspring.com
> >Date: Sunday, August 08, 1999 12:14 AM
> >Subject: Saw your Battles' posting...
> >
> >
> >>on the Alabama queries page at
> >>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~willcutt/1999/062099.htm
> >>and just had to write and see if we are researching the same line. My
> >>grandfather was Robert Battles, son of a Richard Battles. The information
> >we
> >>have gives the date of Richard's birth as Jan 1869 in AL. This Richard was
> >>married to Rosa L. and they had four children...Robert N., Arthur D.,
> >Walter
> >>M., and Minnie L. His father was Franklin Battles, b. 1832-35 in AL,
> >married
> >>to Sarah, and they had Richard, Jane, James, Lela and Della...and we
> >suspect
> >>that Franklin's father was William Battles, son of Noel Battles. William
> >>seems to be the one child of Noel's that there is no information about!!
> >>Everywhere we have searched about William has led to a dead end.
> >>
> >>Would love to hear from you and compare notes. I live in Meridian, MS and
> >>have Battles' relatives living in Alabama still.
> >>
> >>Hope to hear from you soon.
> >>Cathy Thompson
> >>
> >
> >
Ron Thompson
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#5
Posted By: Ron Thompson
28 Oct 1999 1:13 PDT
for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:13:48 -0700
To: mlog@lightpatch.com
From: Ron Thompson
Subject: BATTLES: Fwd: Fw: Saw your Battles' posting...
>From: Cathy Thompson
>To: Ron Thompson
>Subject: Fw: Saw your Battles' posting...
>Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:31:41 -0500
>
>Here's a reply about Battles....for your files
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Margie E. Haynes
>To: Cathy Thompson
>Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 9:16 PM
>Subject: Re: Saw your Battles' posting...
>
>
> >Kathy,
> >My Richard Battles was born 15 March 1839 and died 27 Oct 1929. I know
>that
> >he had at least 2 wives. One was Millie Lurena Pollard whom he married on
> >12 Dec 1867 (she died 20 March 1903). His second wife was Minnie Kelly. I
> >don't have any info on her because I am decended from Millie Pollard.
> >Richard and Millie ahd a daughter Mary Lurena Battle born 12 Jan 1869 (this
> >is my great-grandmother) she married Joseph Louis Jones on 28 Dec 1890 in
> >Cherokee County.
> >
> >Other known children of Richard and Millie are: Laura (born 19 Nov 1870) ,
> >Luther (b: 15 Oct 1879), Lucian (b: 20 June 1882) and Susie Pearl (b: 1
> >March 1886). There may be others but these are the ones that I can verify.
> >
> >Richard is buried in the Shady Grove community in Cherokee County AL. I
> >have not been able to prove any thing but family tradition says that his
> >father was William Battles born about 1779 in Tennessee. I do have a
>little
> >information gleamed from others that has not been verified.
> >
> >Also, there are several Richard and William Battles in AL most of which
>are
> >from Cherokee and St Clair Counties.
> >
> >If any of this info goes with your info, I'll be glad to share what I have.
> >
> >Margie Haynes
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Cathy Thompson
> >To: mehaynesgang@mindspring.com
> >Date: Sunday, August 08, 1999 12:14 AM
> >Subject: Saw your Battles' posting...
> >
> >
> >>on the Alabama queries page at
> >>http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~willcutt/1999/062099.htm
> >>and just had to write and see if we are researching the same line. My
> >>grandfather was Robert Battles, son of a Richard Battles. The information
> >we
> >>have gives the date of Richard's birth as Jan 1869 in AL. This Richard was
> >>married to Rosa L. and they had four children...Robert N., Arthur D.,
> >Walter
> >>M., and Minnie L. His father was Franklin Battles, b. 1832-35 in AL,
> >married
> >>to Sarah, and they had Richard, Jane, James, Lela and Della...and we
> >suspect
> >>that Franklin's father was William Battles, son of Noel Battles. William
> >>seems to be the one child of Noel's that there is no information about!!
> >>Everywhere we have searched about William has led to a dead end.
> >>
> >>Would love to hear from you and compare notes. I live in Meridian, MS and
> >>have Battles' relatives living in Alabama still.
> >>
> >>Hope to hear from you soon.
> >>Cathy Thompson
> >>
> >
> >
Ron Thompson
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#4
Posted By: Ron Thompson
28 Oct 1999 0:52 PDT
for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:52:45 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:52:33 -0700
To: mlog@lightpatch.com
From: Ron Thompson
Subject: BATTLES: Fwd: Re: Battles connections (cathy's reply)
>From: Cathy Thompson
>To:
>Cc: Ron Thompson
>Subject: Re: Battles connections
>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:19:39 -0500
>
>Hi again Benny!
>
>I think I confused you with my last email. We don't have definite proof of
>our Franklin's parentage. We thought he might connect to William and
>Noel...but we don't know for sure. It could be that the reference you sent
>me is the correct one...we just don't know yet :)
>
>We don't have much to go on so far ....except family oral history. I think
>it's going to take us some time to put together the actual ancestry...and I
>really appreciate what you sent...it gives us another alternative to
>explore...in case the other turns out not to be correct.
>
>I would love to have the copy of the census. Anything like that always helps
>for reference. How would you be able to send it? Do you need a snail mail
>address?? If so...let me know.
>
>My youngest brother, Ron, and I research together...even though he is in
>California and I am in Mississippi! He has the FamilyTreemaker software and
>can do some incredible look-ups. I am going to copy this email to him and
>have him do a little looking for your Rolley Battles. There might be a few
>clues in the information he has.
>
>We seem to have run into a brick wall with Franklin's parentage also. We
>have a fairly good listing of the generations from Franklin to present
>day...in our direct line...but just haven't found that little nugget yet
>that will give us his ancestry. Never know when something will fall into our
>laps...it's happened before with our Smith line! Out of the blue...got a
>reply to another posting and added several generations along with some
>living cousins! So...here's to good luck for us both! Who knows...we could
>be distant cousins ourselves!!
>
>I do hope you will keep in touch and let me know if you run across anything
>further on Franklin and his parentage and we'll keep an eye peeled for any
>information about Rolley...perhaps we can compare more recent notes and see
>if the lines cross anywhere.
>
>Will be looking forward to hearing from you again soon!
>Cathy
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BATTLEPORT@aol.com
>To: chatkat@strato.net
>Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:01 PM
>Subject: Re: Battles connections
>
>
> >Cathy, I am trying to find information on Rolley Battles b-1820 and ran
> >across Franklins name in the 1850 Cherokee Co. Ala Cen. and it shows the
> >information i posted. I would be glad to send a copy if you don't have
>access
> >to that cencus. it is page 136 & 137. It shows Franklins father to be
> >(William born 1780) but Noel Williams son William L Battles acording to
> >some reserchers to be born 1786. I am sorry to throw this in as confusion.
>I
> >thought it would help.
> >
> >
> >what do you have on Rolley or his children even a bigger question, who is
>his
> >farther?
> >I am showing William L Battles, Noels son to be his father. I also have
> >verified info from him to me. If I could only go on back.
> >
> >sorry about the confusion hope to hear from you Thanks Benny.
> >
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#3
Posted By: Ron Thompson
28 Oct 1999 0:50 PDT
for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:50:55 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:50:46 -0700
To: mlog@lightpatch.com
From: Ron Thompson
Subject: BATTLES: Fwd: Linda W's reply to Cat's Battles query
>Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:17:36 -0700
>To: ronwidd@sageinst.COM
>From: Ron and Deb Thompson
>Subject: Linda W's reply to Cat's Battles query
>
>
>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Al/Cherokee?read=193
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#2
Posted By: Ron Thompson
28 Oct 1999 0:47 PDT
for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:47:45 -0700
To: mlog@lightpatch.com
From: Ron Thompson
Subject: BATTLES: Fwd: Fw: FRANKLIN BATTLES 2nd time
>From: Cathy Thompson
>To: Ron Thompson
>Subject: Fw: FRANKLIN BATTLES
>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:34:41 -0500
>
>Read this and tell me what he's saying!! Doh!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BATTLEPORT@aol.com
>To: chatkat@strato.net
>Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 9:46 PM
>Subject: FRANKLIN BATTLES
>
>
> >Cathy, this is Benny, I did some reserch through some of my old files i
>dont
> >have much on Franklin. but i think your connection will be Archibald. In
>the
> >1850 St. cl. ala cencus I found may be your Franklin.This is the cencus:
> >Archibald Battles age 50, Milley age 48, monroe 19, Rupee 15, Franklin 13,
> >Archibold Jr. 11, Evan 9, Eveline 8, Chasely 5, pincmey 2. Some of these
> >names may notbe spelled correct they are hard for me to make out.
> >Archibald is a son of Noel William Battles (B-1755) and Elizabeth Hooper
> >1765) (children) William 1786, Samuel 1788, Nelson 1788, Obadiah 1799,
> >Archibald 1800, Edy 1801, Thomas 1802 Elizabeth 1803.
> >Noel William is son of William Battles 1728 and Mary ann Williams with two
> >brothers James 1760 and John 1762.
> >I dont know if Franklins wife was Sarah or not but the date fits.
> >hope this helps.
> >benny
> >
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#1
Posted By: Ron Thompson
28 Oct 1999 0:45 PDT
for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:45:55 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:45:51 -0700
To: mlog@lightpatch.com
From: Ron Thompson
Subject: BATTLES: Fwd: Fw: FRANKLIN BATTLES
>From: Cathy Thompson
>To: Ron Thompson
>Subject: Fw: FRANKLIN BATTLES
>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:34:41 -0500
>
>Read this and tell me what he's saying!! Doh!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BATTLEPORT@aol.com
>To: chatkat@strato.net
>Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 9:46 PM
>Subject: FRANKLIN BATTLES
>
>
> >Cathy, this is Benny, I did some reserch through some of my old files i
>dont
> >have much on Franklin. but i think your connection will be Archibald. In
>the
> >1850 St. cl. ala cencus I found may be your Franklin.This is the cencus:
> >Archibald Battles age 50, Milley age 48, monroe 19, Rupee 15, Franklin 13,
> >Archibold Jr. 11, Evan 9, Eveline 8, Chasely 5, pincmey 2. Some of these
> >names may notbe spelled correct they are hard for me to make out.
> >Archibald is a son of Noel William Battles (B-1755) and Elizabeth Hooper
> >1765) (children) William 1786, Samuel 1788, Nelson 1788, Obadiah 1799,
> >Archibald 1800, Edy 1801, Thomas 1802 Elizabeth 1803.
> >Noel William is son of William Battles 1728 and Mary ann Williams with two
> >brothers James 1760 and John 1762.
> >I dont know if Franklins wife was Sarah or not but the date fits.
> >hope this helps.
> >benny
> >
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